which tires?

[SNOTROCKET]

I need to put some new rubber under my 4runner. i am just perplexed with what to put. i had km2's on the Tacoma and i loved them.  i never had any problems on the rocks or in the sand. i got stuck once in the mud pulling some one else out. but I've been eye balling the new mtr's. they look ridiculous. but Ive heard nothing but great things about them. i currently have bfg at's, but they just don't have enough tractions for what i like to do. 

i know theres a lot more tires out there. i just wanted to hear what everyone else thought. lets here the skinny.

what do you think about what tires?

[jeffm1964]

I am currently running the Nitto Mud Grapplers and love them http://www.nittotire.com/#index%2Etire%2Emudgrappler%2Eoverview
if you want a quite tire they are not for you. Great hook up tough construction they balance good and the ride is good 

[DavidWymore]

I'd go for tuff and price over looks.

What size do you have now and what gears do you have?

I think 4wheelparts has some kinds of free replacement road hazard thing.

LTBs are tough and cheap but lack highway manners. That being said, Reno runs them on his DD Wrangler.

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Tires/LTB.aspx?t_c=13&t_s=158&t_pt=100812&t_pl=3868

A little more mild yet still priced pretty good :

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Tires/TrXus-Mud-Terrain-Radial.aspx?t_c=13&t_s=158&t_pt=100815&t_pl=3870

[SNOTROCKET]

right now i have stock 410 gears with 32" tires and an aussie locker in the rear. idealy i would like to put 35" tires. regear it to 488, with an arb front and rear. but thats gonna be really expensive, especially the lockers. (unless anybody else knows of a great quality cheaper selectible locker, not a big fan of auto locks.)

i dont want to put the tires on before i regear it because i dont want to blow out a diff. and i dont want to regear it with out putting in the locker at the same time.

or i could stick with the gears i have right now. and go with 33" tires and i shouldnt have to reger it. just as long as im easy on the axles.

but i want to go with the first route. (in the long run)

[DavidWymore]

Sounds like it's time for some 33s and save up for the 35s.

BTW, your diffs will not blow up if you don't regear them. Your gearing will just be all messed up. Your low range won't be low enough and you will be lugging the engine on the street.

Here's a thread on steering/lockers

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=798753&highlight=making+buggy+steer


When you're ready for lockers, gears, etc. go to Hughes Racing Components in Santee and tell Jason I sent you. He will take care of you for a fair price.

[SNOTROCKET]

a lot of good info on that thread. thank you. i think that for now im going to save the money. buy parts when i got the money, it will be easier to save up for each individual part than all at once. do the gears, and the tires. but after reading all of that on pirate. i kind of got a little confused. is it better to have fully selectable, or auto all around. or one selectable, and the other auto. and i have no idea what "cutting" of the breaks means.

i like the idea of a selectable locker, but i dont like the price. i like the price of a detroit, but i dont like that i dont get to tell it when to lock (or not lock for that matter)

[Mikegyver1]

Is this your daily driver as well? If not consider a spool for the rear and a aussie locker for the front. All for about $450

[DavidWymore]

Post up in the wanted section on Pirate for used stuff. I've gotten good deals that way.

Can't beat the spool for cheap reliable traction, but hurts steering, both tires always want to push straight so the front steering tires have a hard time making the 2 rears steer. Also, you cannot hold a line on a sidehil. A detroit locks in when you give it gas and unlocks when you let off. I've always run 2 detroits with good luck, but they're probably not as good as selectable, but I'd rather not have to mess with them.

[DavidWymore]

a lot of good info on that thread. thank you. i think that for now im going to save the money. buy parts when i got the money, it will be easier to save up for each individual part than all at once. do the gears, and the tires. but after reading all of that on pirate. i kind of got a little confused. is it better to have fully selectable, or auto all around. or one selectable, and the other auto. and i have no idea what "cutting" of the breaks means.

i like the idea of a selectable locker, but i dont like the price. i like the price of a detroit, but i dont like that i dont get to tell it when to lock (or not lock for that matter)

Selectable rear, auoto front is what the comp guy says....

Cutting brakes are handle or pedal activated setups that let you lock one wheel so the other turns, usually just on the rear. Say you wanna turn right real hard in a tight canyon. Unlock the ARB, lock the right cutting brake, turn the wheels right, and it will just about turn around on itself.

[SNOTROCKET]

is ther any good or bad about aussie lockers? i have a rear aussie. and after reading about all of this im probally going to go with auto locks all around. and like i said i already have an aussie in the rear. would it be a good idea to put one in the front too, or should i just get rid of it and get detroit all around.

[-96jeepspeed-]

I run a Aussie in the front, and never worry about hurting it. On the street you would never know it there. The only thing about it is turning radius in 4WD, but thats just how there are. If your really worried about it go to teraflex and get a 2-LO kit. But for 260$ shipped to your door, you cant beat it.

[DavidWymore]

I've always run 2 detroits. When I want to turn tighter, I blip the throttle a couple times (with an automatic). When you let off, it unlocks and lets the bind out, and when you get back in it, it starts steering again. I think it also breaks the back tires loose a little and lets them pivot the direction the front tires are pulling. With a stick, you can blip it or maybe go in and out with  the clutch a little. My dodge is a stick and it works to blip it.

[Matt]

I'd go for tuff and price over looks.

What size do you have now and what gears do you have?

I think 4wheelparts has some kinds of free replacement road hazard thing.

LTBs are tough and cheap but lack highway manners. That being said, Reno runs them on his DD Wrangler.

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Tires/LTB.aspx?t_c=13&t_s=158&t_pt=100812&t_pl=3868

A little more mild yet still priced pretty good :

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Tires/TrXus-Mud-Terrain-Radial.aspx?t_c=13&t_s=158&t_pt=100815&t_pl=3870

I have a set of 35x12.50 16R Procomp Xterrians for sale. They're mounted on 7189 Procomp Rims. They have that 4WP warranty which repairs/replaces if you get a flat or tear on or off road. They're in great shape if your interested.