Rig rating for future runs

[Metal Twister]

I guess we should be thinking about rating rigs for future runs. I have seen several different ways to evaluate if a rig is up to the trail... I think its time for a group discussion on how we want to do this? What has worked for you in the past? Maybe the more experienced here can throw out some suggestions.... Keep in mind we are talking all brands here, not just Jeep or Toyota. Heght requirements, width requirements, ec

[hammeredtoys]

I know most of the org. that set up events have requriment set up for each trail,tires 35 lock front and rear winch mandatory etc. I think it is more on how much time it takes to run a trail. with 20 or 25 trucks on a trail. Like at the hammers!!!!!! ;D

[hammeredtoys]

Well if your talking jeep type rig


37 locked up f/r low gearing and transfer case gears some type of 3-link or long travel suspension  ;D

[DesertCrawler]

THATS AWSOME! Sweet rig. Thats what I want to make my jeep into someday.... motor, tranny kind of, and thats all for the jeep parts.lol

[-sean-]

Stick to the basic that cover all rigs. Tire size and lockers. The rest is up to driver skill and preparation, no matter the rig type. JMO. ::)

[StvDiego]

I'm not sure that the rig itself should be rated. Rating trails/runs seem to be the way to go. Besides, I've seen seriously built rigs with a driver that has no business owning it, and close to stock ones with a great driver that can do amazing things. If anything the driver and spotter should be rated :D

I like using the Cal4WD safety requirements as a recommended starting point for basic stuff and then rate the trails based on the rig, and more importantly the ability of the driver.

There are many trails that no matter how good the rig, it just isn't going to make it. Here in San Diego County the squeeze and parts of Truckhaven comes to mind, most full-size rigs just won't fit in without major body damage. There are also trails where longer wheel base rigs can't make high-apex hills or turns because they are so long they high-center or can't make narrow corners. Conversely, I've been on trials, especially some hill and rock climbs, where longer wheelbases rule.

I've led close to stock rigs across difficult trails that the driver never thought he or she could make or would even attempt, but with good lines, spotting and using the pedals right they made it through.

Maybe we should consider beginners/learners runs, teach basic skills like walking and picking a line, using the throttle/brake/clutch, recovery with straps/winches/etc and so on. Build a competent driver and he or she can drive anything anywhere, almost

[Metal Twister]

StvDiego suggests using these safety guidelines as a minum requirement for our runs... look them over and see if there is anything we should add or delete?


All vehicles must be maintained to conform to highway safety standards, as well as meet the minimum requirements listed below:

Roll bar or full cage or factory hard top
Functional Parking brake or Mico-Lock
Tow strap or rope. (recommend rated at 2 times the vehicle weight).
First aid kit (what do you want when you are hurt?)
Jack capable of lifting the vehicle and a tool capable of removing lug nuts (don't forget your wheel locks)
Spare tire equal to or within 3 inches of existing tires on the vehicle. (no temporary spares).
Fire extinguisher with gauge indicating good/full, appropriately stored
Seat belts for all passengers
Antennas must not exceed 4'6" (except when longer antennas/whips are required by certain OHV areas).
Adequate attachment points front and rear, i.e., tow hooks, receiver, etc. Tow balls are generally not recommended.
Battery hold downs (no bungie cords)

Strongly suggest
At least 3 gallons of drinkable water. (specially in the desert areas)
CB radio either hand held or vehicle mounted.
 

[Brink]

I like those guidelines. The rest should be left up to the owner of the vehicle. If the guidelines simply focus on the overall safety requirements (as the above do), then this may increase the number of people willing to join.
Post the trail ratings and "member guidelines" and go from there.